China passes Taiwan secession law

[elstatec]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-p ... 346283.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4346283.stm)

[quote:4c4dc]
China passes Taiwan secession law
Chinese soldiers
The threat of force is a key element of China's Taiwan policy
China's legislature has passed a law giving it the legal right to use force against Taiwan if the island declares formal independence from the mainland.

The National People's Congress voted in favour after President Hu Jintao told the army to be prepared for war.

China sees Taiwan as its territory and says it reserves the right to use force if "peaceful re-unification" fails.

The Congress was also expected to pass a further significant increase in Chinese military spending.

China's announcement last week of the anti-secession law drew criticism in Taiwan and from US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

'People's determination'

In Monday's session of the Congress, the anti-secession law was passed unanimously by a margin of 2,896 to zero.

Delegates broke into applause when the law was passed, the Associated Press news agency reports.

China's second leader, Wu Bangguo, said the law "represents the people's determination not to allow Taiwan to be separated from China by any means or any excuses".

As passed, the law calls for the use of "non-peaceful and other necessary measures" if hopes for peaceful unification are exhausted.

On Sunday, Mr Hu told China's army, which has expanded rapidly in recent years amid growing concern in the US, to put national defence "above all else".

Taiwan split from China during a civil war in 1949 and has maintained de facto independence ever since. [/quote:4c4dc]

THEEEE WORLDS GONE CCRAZZY I TELL YOU

[Mr.Buttocks]

Wu Bangguo

[Innoxx]

Bian, move out, now.

[ninty]

The US has pledged to protect Taiwan if their attacked by the Chinese also.

[Stammer]

The US has pledged to protect Taiwan if their attacked by the Chinese also.

I'm not sure we would keep that pledge. China is no joke, we would lose alot of soldiers.

[ninty]

http://ww2.pstripes.osd.mil/01/apr01/ed042701c.html

China and the US are the two big boys on the block. Could you imagine if one of the big boys backed down to the other? That means there's only 1 big boy now. I don't see the US backing down.

Also, something that affects our Australian friends:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/co ... 02,00.html (http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,12538683%255E1702,00.html)

[Jin-Roh]

Is this a "holy shit"? - or an "oh, bummer"?

[Tripper]

If I feel threatened, I'll probably sign-up for the army. I know if Australia gets dragged into this one, we probably will too.

Note: If I feel threatened.

[elstatec]

dont go trippar!

[Jimbo@]

We're all gonna die. We're all gonna die. We're all gonna die.

[Short Hand]

War In The Pacific.. Part Duex.



BIAN GET OUT !Q

[Sgt>Stackem]

this is not good, they should leave Tiawan be

[Tripper]

There's a couple of problems in south-east asia at the moment....Look at Indonesia, country is just way too big for itself. We liberated East Timor, but there's no telling how long it is before they waltz back in there.

We've already once come REALLY close to war with them in the last 5 years.

I'd say the next 5 years we'll definitely see some kind of hostile action from them....Same goes for China.

[Ferich]

Don't worry, if it turns into a combat zone I'll pick up doom in my blackhawk and we'll be on our way over.

[Tripper]

Don't worry, if it turns into a combat zone I'll pick up doom in my blackhawk and we'll be on our way over.

Werd...I'll be the one doing the twist on the battlefield wearing only a gun holster.

[negative]

Boys---get ready for the big one!

[Pyro]

someone explain to me what was wrong with my post?

Seriouslly...it was probably one of my first posts in this forum that didn't have any intention to bash anything.

ferich: Pm a mod if you have any questions in the future. I'm assuming someone deleted your post?

[Sgt>Stackem]

someone explain to me what was wrong with my post?

Seriouslly...it was probably one of my first posts in this forum that didn't have any intention to bash anything.




you must be suffering from lackobushbashing cause I dont see where anyone said anything about your post??????

[Stammer]

England went to war with Germany becuase they invaded Belgium.

History has a nasty little habbit of repeating itself.

[Short Hand]

[quote="$p!k3":56e0d]England went to war with Germany becuase they invaded Belgium.

History has a nasty little habbit of repeating itself.[/quote:56e0d]

You mean poland* lol.....

[Stammer]

[quote="Short Hand":f7279][quote="$p!k3":f7279]England went to war with Germany becuase they invaded Belgium.

History has a nasty little habbit of repeating itself.[/quote:f7279]

You mean poland* lol.....[/quote:f7279]

World War I

[quote:f7279]Germany declared war on Russia and France and on August 3rd, 1914, invaded Belgium, whose security was guaranteed by England which therefore declared war on Germany. Thus World War I began, with Germany and Austria-Hungary, called the Central Powers, lined up against France, Russia, and England, hereafter called the Allies. Only Italy held back.[/quote:f7279]

[Tripper]

[quote="$p!k3":1f82f]England went to war with Germany becuase they invaded Belgium.

History has a nasty little habbit of repeating itself.[/quote:1f82f]

Yup, and personally that freaks the shit out of me. This is really close too home as well, too close for my liking.

[Short Hand]

[quote="$p!k3":b7af5][quote="Short Hand":b7af5][quote="$p!k3":b7af5]England went to war with Germany becuase they invaded Belgium.

History has a nasty little habbit of repeating itself.[/quote:b7af5]

You mean poland* lol.....[/quote:b7af5]

World War I

[quote:b7af5]Germany declared war on Russia and France and on August 3rd, 1914, invaded Belgium, whose security was guaranteed by England which therefore declared war on Germany. Thus World War I began, with Germany and Austria-Hungary, called the Central Powers, lined up against France, Russia, and England, hereafter called the Allies. Only Italy held back.[/quote:b7af5][/quote:b7af5]




Are we not talking about ww2? I thought we were...

[Tripper]

[quote="Short Hand":e1273][quote="$p!k3":e1273][quote="Short Hand":e1273][quote="$p!k3":e1273]England went to war with Germany becuase they invaded Belgium.

History has a nasty little habbit of repeating itself.[/quote:e1273]

You mean poland* lol.....[/quote:e1273]

World War I

[quote:e1273]Germany declared war on Russia and France and on August 3rd, 1914, invaded Belgium, whose security was guaranteed by England which therefore declared war on Germany. Thus World War I began, with Germany and Austria-Hungary, called the Central Powers, lined up against France, Russia, and England, hereafter called the Allies. Only Italy held back.[/quote:e1273][/quote:e1273]




Are we not talking about ww2? I thought we were...[/quote:e1273]

You assumed he was. WW2 was never mentioned until you "corrected" him.

[Short Hand]

Well that is what I "thought" oOo:

[elstatec]

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u ... china_dc_1 (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050326/wl_nm/taiwan_china_dc_1)

interesting to see what happens out of this situation

[Jin-Roh]

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050326/wl_nm/taiwan_china_dc_1

interesting to see what happens out of this situation

Tinamin Square 2.. ?

[Maplegyver]

me and ferich could ttake down 60 of them with our jeeps

[elstatec]

[quote=elstatec]http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050326/wl_nm/taiwan_china_dc_1

interesting to see what happens out of this situation

Tinamin Square 2.. ?[/quote:9d1a5]

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square_protests_of_1989:9d1a5]Think before you type.[/url:9d1a5]

this is about the Taiwanese protesting of China passing a anti-secession, not about chinese students protesting for democracy.

[Jin-Roh]

[quote=elstatec]http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050326/wl_nm/taiwan_china_dc_1

interesting to see what happens out of this situation

Tinamin Square 2.. ?

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square_protests_of_1989:bafa1]Think before you type.[/url:bafa1]

this is about the Taiwanese protesting of China passing a anti-secession, not about chinese students protesting for democracy.[/quote:bafa1]

No shit. I am saying that while Taiwan is still protesting, China won't give a shit and [attack?].

[Tripper]

[quote="Short Hand":1f815]Well that is what I "thought" oOo:[/quote:1f815]

....Based on assumption, as there was no evidence labelling it WW2.

Think before you click on post. It's really simple.

[Short Hand]

can you stfu ? I explained myself. It was a simple mistake. Now get off your high horse and come back down to planet earth with the rest of us kiwi.

[elstatec]

[quote="Jin-Roh":39481][quote=elstatec]http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050326/wl_nm/taiwan_china_dc_1

interesting to see what happens out of this situation

Tinamin Square 2.. ?

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square_protests_of_1989:39481]Think before you type.[/url:39481]

this is about the Taiwanese protesting of China passing a anti-secession, not about chinese students protesting for democracy.[/quote:39481]

No shit. I am saying that while Taiwan is still protesting, China won't give a shit and [attack?].[/quote:39481]


and again it has absolutely nothing todo about Tiananmen Square, as that was chinese students protesting then chinese soldiers dispersing of them. If the worse happens with this it will be China going to War against Taiwan. nub.

[Madmartagen]

I would like to see the world react to Chinas attack on Taiwan because i dont really think the world will do anything about it other than sanctions. I doubt anyone has a very good plan on repelling a Chinese attack. It looks like this fight was going to happen eventually, might as well be now. I dont know, maybe im just giving the Chinese too much credit.

[Tripper]

[quote="Short Hand":b5455]can you stfu ? I explained myself. It was a simple mistake. Now get off your high horse and come back down to planet earth with the rest of us kiwi.[/quote:b5455]\

Stop flame-baiting, with the attempts at insults. Keep it civil.

[elstatec]

I would like to see the world react to Chinas attack on Taiwan because i dont really think the world will do anything about it other than sanctions. I doubt anyone has a very good plan on repelling a Chinese attack. It looks like this fight was going to happen eventually, might as well be now. I dont know, maybe im just giving the Chinese too much credit.


the proper way using sanctions is the better, as threatening with more force only makes things worse.

[Short Hand]

I would like to see the world react to Chinas attack on Taiwan because i dont really think the world will do anything about it other than sanctions. I doubt anyone has a very good plan on repelling a Chinese attack. It looks like this fight was going to happen eventually, might as well be now. I dont know, maybe im just giving the Chinese too much credit.

They must have some sort of plan to have passed such a bold bill. I will tell you this, If Taiwan declares their independence, Chinese soldiers will by swarming within minutes to take the island by force.