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Bleuachdu
02-10-2005, 08:08 AM
[url:cec7d]http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20050210/ap_on_re_as/nkorea_nuclear[/url:cec7d]
[url:cec7d]http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/10/international/asia/10cnd-korea.html[/url:cec7d]
Not good. loney:
As hard as I look, I can't find any mention of massive US troop deployment to South Korea in any of these stories.
Zoner
02-10-2005, 08:10 AM
/me googles "building bomb shelters"
HeadUp
02-10-2005, 09:30 AM
As hard as I look, I can't find any mention of massive US troop deployment to South Korea in any of these stories.
that article from the other post about troop deployment was from some south korean statement called the white paper that hasnt been published since 2000
i think its just south korea trying to bluff in order to cover thier asses
Himmler
02-10-2005, 10:30 AM
at least they said they are for self defense...
Bleuachdu
02-10-2005, 10:54 AM
As hard as I look, I can't find any mention of massive US troop deployment to South Korea in any of these stories.
that article from the other post about troop deployment was from some south korean statement called the white paper that hasnt been published since 2000
i think its just south korea trying to bluff in order to cover thier asses
Yeah I think that might've been bogus.
rdeyes
02-10-2005, 11:05 AM
i for one am not shocked that they have these weapons, it was only a matter of time before they came clean about it.
Jin-Roh
02-10-2005, 01:33 PM
STWARS! oOo:
Trunks
02-10-2005, 01:35 PM
HA! As if we didnt know it already. rolleyes:
Machette
02-10-2005, 02:24 PM
Like U.S Intelligence didn't know this already? oOo:
Jin-Roh
02-10-2005, 04:15 PM
I think the Governor of Texas should go kick some North Korean ass.
HeadUp
02-10-2005, 04:51 PM
[quote="Jin-Roh":b3138]I think the Governor of Texas should go kick some North Korean ass.[/quote:b3138]
im gonna just disregard that statement due to its unimaginable retardedness
Being a threat is usually what makes America not worry about you...
WW2 is enough of an example...they usually just attack where there is not threat what so ever and financial gain is involved
Coleman
02-10-2005, 05:55 PM
Being a threat is usually what makes America not worry about you...
WW2 is enough of an example...they usually just attack where there is not threat what so ever and financial gain is involved rolleyes:
tomxtr
02-10-2005, 06:32 PM
Being a threat is usually what makes America not worry about you...
WW2 is enough of an example...they usually just attack where there is not threat what so ever and financial gain is involved
spank:
ninty
02-10-2005, 10:26 PM
North Korea has no way of deploying their weapons against the US.
You have control by holding nuclear weapons. You have absolutey no control when you use them. What gain does North Korea get by launching a nuke against anyone?
Nukes 101: Never use nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons are a deterrent.
Their country is on the verge of collapse. The North Koreans aren't stupid. Launching a nuke would be stupid.
The situation does require diplomacy and the like, but does not justify war.
Same could have been said for Iraq. Even if they had nukes, does anyone actually think they would use them? What would Saddam have to gain by Nuking Kuwair, or Israel, or Iran or the US? He'd get raped.
Hawke
02-10-2005, 10:35 PM
99, I would like to hope that would be true however I disagree for 1 reason.
That being their leader is one crazy man. I think that if he gets beat enough that he will relize he has lost and launch one off knowing he is going to die anyways.
ninty
02-10-2005, 10:42 PM
Beat how?
There's a differnece between being a psychopath, and being insane. I believe Kim Jong Ill is a psychopath, but I don't think he's insane. I don't really think any of the world Tyrants are insane, and I doubt any of them would do something as irrational as launch nuclear weapons.
rdeyes
02-10-2005, 11:55 PM
Beat how?
There's a differnece between being a psychopath, and being insane. I believe Kim Jong Ill is a psychopath, but I don't think he's insane. I don't really think any of the world Tyrants are insane, and I doubt any of them would do something as irrational as launch nuclear weapons.
i must side with 99... i dont think there a leader foolish enough to launch any type of nuclear weapon, if there was i believe it would have been done already..
tomxtr
02-11-2005, 07:59 AM
Beat how?
There's a differnece between being a psychopath, and being insane. I believe Kim Jong Ill is a psychopath, but I don't think he's insane. I don't really think any of the world Tyrants are insane, and I doubt any of them would do something as irrational as launch nuclear weapons.
i must side with 99... i dont think there a leader foolish enough to launch any type of nuclear weapon, if there was i believe it would have been done already..
If I had to guess, I'd say that the most probable use of nukes would be between India and Pakistan. Although things seemed to have cooled off between the two.
Short Hand
02-11-2005, 10:13 AM
Saddam's main reason for not coming 100 % clean about his WMD's ? Iran. Pretend to have teeth, and keep your enemy's at bay.
HeadUp
02-11-2005, 12:25 PM
Beat how?
There's a differnece between being a psychopath, and being insane. I believe Kim Jong Ill is a psychopath, but I don't think he's insane. I don't really think any of the world Tyrants are insane, and I doubt any of them would do something as irrational as launch nuclear weapons.
i must side with 99... i dont think there a leader foolish enough to launch any type of nuclear weapon, if there was i believe it would have been done already..
you guys need to understand just how irrational north korea is tho
there was something on cnn in late 2004 that went into the country (which is very rare, korea is EXTREMELY secretive), and it showed schools teaching 5 and 6 year olds that america are the nazis and that we will invade soon and that they will have to give thier lives to protect thier country. it was insane hearing what these little children had to say, the whole country is being brainwashed
what makes all this so scary is that north korea has every intention of using those nukes should they feel threatened, thats the entire reason they have them........this is a very sensitive matter that will require diplomacy which is not currently being practiced in america
i just dont know what north korea wants from us?? our money? our prosperity? or just our deaths?
Trunks
02-11-2005, 02:08 PM
I am siding with headup on this one. Sure nukes are a method blackmail etc, but I dont think countries would spend trillions of dollars developing, and testing nuclear weapons if they never planned to use them. Thtas like buying a house that you never plan to live in. Countries develop nukes for several reasons.
1) They think it will make them look more powerfu/be feared/respected.
2) They can use it as a way to blackmail allies and enemies alike.
3) If need be, they can launch one against a hostile target, for whatever reason...nukes were used before, it is inevietable that they will be used again, sooner or later.
I believe allowing N. Korea to posess nukes is like letting civilians buy tanks. Nothing good will come from it. Plus there is the fact that as headup mentioned already, they are brainwashed, like for example kids in some extremist arabic countries. They are taught that jews are the scum of the earth and that America is the greatest enemy, from the minute they are able to comprehend speach.
rdeyes
02-11-2005, 03:19 PM
i do believe NK is capable of launching a nuke that CAN reach american soil and if shit hits the fan the closest spot to NK is alaska, and we have a few military bases up here and the " missle defense system" that thing is a joke B.T.W. So please dont be foolish enough to think that NK cant hit american soil , cause im sure they can rolleyes:
ninty
02-11-2005, 03:31 PM
Why are you sure they can?
I highly doubt North Korea could at this moment launch an ICBM holding a nuclear warhead. I doubt India, Pakistan, Israel or any other country besides the US and Russia can hit long distance from bases in their own country. I suppose some countries could put them on a sub and drive up to your doorstep.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L10181068.htm
[quote:70c4d]North Korea has test fired short- and medium-range ballistic missiles, but its missile programme has been marred by accidents and the accuracy of the weapons has been questioned.[/quote:70c4d]
Iran says they can hit stuff 2000kms away:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3716490.stm
BTW, don't assume things.
rolleyes:
rdeyes
02-11-2005, 04:47 PM
Why are you sure they can?
I highly doubt North Korea could at this moment launch an ICBM holding a nuclear warhead. I doubt India, Pakistan, Israel or any other country besides the US and Russia can hit long distance from bases in their own country. I suppose some countries could put them on a sub and drive up to your doorstep.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L10181068.htm
[quote:9b7ee]North Korea has test fired short- and medium-range ballistic missiles, but its missile programme has been marred by accidents and the accuracy of the weapons has been questioned.
Iran says they can hit stuff 2000kms away:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3716490.stm
BTW, don't assume things.
rolleyes:[/quote:9b7ee]
http://www.atomicarchive.com/Reports/No ... Dong.shtml (http://www.atomicarchive.com/Reports/Northkorea/TaepoDong.shtml)
Now i dont know the precise distance from NK to any part of alaska , so if its less than 3,730 miles than i will be more than happy to retract my proir post about them being able to hit alaska . just comparing facts with ya 99
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