The Power of Nightmares BBC Documentary

[ninty]

Pretty good BBC documentary:

[quote:ea775]The Power of Nightmares assesses whether the threat from a hidden and organised terrorist network is an illusion. In the concluding part of the series, the programme explains how the illusion was created and who benefits from it.[/quote:ea775]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/3970901.stm

1 hour long, part of a series of 3. I'm currently trying to locate the other two, but this part is pretty much stand alone. You don't need the other parts to understand what is going on.

Right click, save as. 600mb. Big download, but it's worth it.

Watch it and share your comments.

http://jefftrudel.com/The%20Power%20of% ... %20VCD.mpg (http://jefftrudel.com/The%20Power%20of%20Nightmares%20BBC%20Documentary% 20VCD.mpg)

[Machette]

Thanks ninty9, I'll watch it later and give some feedback.

[strvs]

Thanks ninty9, I'll watch it later and give some feedback.

[ninty]

I found the other two parts as well. So if you guys are interested, i'll host them for you guys to download if you want them.

[Short Hand]

Pm me please. excellet doc.

[Machette]

Yeah after watching the first one I really wouldn't mind getting the other two. biggrin:

[ninty]

K, i'll try and upload them tonight, and i'll put the links up when their done.

[strvs]

Wish i had more time. loney:

[ninty]

Here we are:

[url=http://jefftrudel.com/Episode%201%20Baby%20it's%20Cold%20Outside.avi:1ff 79]Episode 1 - The Power of Nightmares - Baby it's Cold Outside[/url:1ff79]

[url=http://jefftrudel.com/Episode%202%20The%20Phantom%20Victory.avi:1ff79]Episode 2 - The Power of Nightmares - The Phantom Victory[/url:1ff79]

And episode 3 is in the first post.

[Machette]

I love you ninty9, if any more political documentaries come along please post them here, the last episode which you posted was very interesting. Just goes to show how America uses lies..

[ninty]

I love you too babe. spank:

I used to have a bunch of others, but they got reformatted.

I don't like posting them because I don't know if all of them are entirley factual. I know there are a lot of videos out there claiming stuff, but its not true, or uses shoddy information or manipulates info, so you have to be careful.

I'll probably looks for some others tomorrow, and if I find something worthwhile, i'll post it.

[ninty]

A ton of Docs here for free:

http://www.freedocumentaries.org/

I have votergate on my comp and it's good.

I've also seen CBC's Dick Cheney Bio, CBC’s Conspiracy Theories and Deadline Iraq: Full Uncensored Stories of the War.

Looks like there are a bunch of other good ones there. Also, I found a bunch of other ones that as soon as I ahev downloaded them i'l host them.

I also found Manufacturing Consent, so i'll post that up too.

[Machette]

<3<3
saw the 2nd part of manufacturing consent, wouldnt mind seeing the first part..

[ninty]

Noam Chomsky is on Hot Type on CBC right now. Go figure.

http://www.cbc.ca/hottype/season02-03/m ... omsky.html (http://www.cbc.ca/hottype/season02-03/middleeast_chomsky.html)

[Machette]

When you gonna upload? biggrin:

[ninty]

i'm d/l 9 docs right now.

1) Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0418038/

2) Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104810/

3) Noam Chomsky: Distorted Morality
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0361959/

4) Afghan Massacre

5) Control Room
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0391024/

6) Uncovered: The Whole Truth About the Iraq War
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0388495/

7) The Fog of War: Eleven Lessons from the Life of Robert S. McNamara
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317910/

8) Hijacking Catastrophe: 9/11, Fear & the Selling of American Empire
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419806/

9) The Corporation
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0379225/

Hopefully I can get most of them done tonight, and i'll upload them all day tomorrow. So maybe tomorrow night you'll beable to download. I dunno if I have enough space for them all. I think I only have 2.4GB.

Are you finished watching the three BBC ones?

Also, if you know of any other docs, let me know so I can go looking for them.

[Machette]

I haven't gotten to watching the other 2 parts probably watch them both on the weekend but I have seen the first one, And yes I downloaded them so you can take them down if you want your call, plus if you want you can pm if you want since I am probably one of the only ones in this thread thats remotely interested in the videos you post but its your call if you dont want your bandwith getting owned. ninty9 ownage rock:

[Machette]

Ninty you should look into "The Trials of Henry Kissinger"

[ninty]

[url=http&#58;//jefftrudel&#46;com/3Manufacturing%20Consent%20-%20Noam%20Chomsky%20and%20the%20Media&#46;mpeg:c9d80]Manufacturing Consent[/url:c9d80]

[url=http&#58;//jefftrudel&#46;com/Uncovered%20-%20The%20Truth%20About%20the%20Iraq%20War%20(Moveo n&#46;org)&#46;avi:c9d80]The Truth About the Iraq War[/url:c9d80]

Here's two I uploaded today. I don't have any room for others right now so maybe in a few days i'll take all these down and put up the others.

I'll look into the Henry Kissinger stuff.

[Machette]

ninty9 ownage rock: rock: rock: rock: rock:

[ninty]

[url=http&#58;//jefftrudel&#46;com/The%20corporation&#46;avi:5d1a5]The Corporation[/url:5d1a5]

[Machette]

oOo:

[ninty]

rofl

fixed cool:

[Machette]

get up fog of war and everything else rock:

[ninty]

fog of war is going up now you addicted biach. happy:

it'll be done when i get home drunk

[Machette]

oOo: biggrin:

[Sgt. Paine]

links are down again. atleast the ones you uploaded.

[Machette]

He took down the old ones and is constantly putting up new docs, your to late

[ninty]

He took down the old ones and is constantly putting up new docs, your to late

yah ad mach i put up fog of war had to think for a minute t is here

http://jefftrudel.com/Fog%20of%20War.avi

can't do teh brackets things too much drinking ai already told you kthx

[strvs]

rofl

[Machette]

oOo:

[Machette]

get some more docs up 999999999999999999999

[ninty]

which ones

[Machette]

-Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism

-Control Room

-Hijacking Catastrophe: 9/11, Fear & the Selling of American Empire

-Afghan Massacre


eek:

You ever find that Trials of Henry Kissinger? eek:

[ninty]

i can't get any seeds on teh kissinger stuff.

i'll upload some tomorrow

http://www.waronfreedom.org/bookshelf.html

[Machette]

rock:

[strvs]

Thanks for the vids ninty

[ninty]

no problemo

I just finished watching Hijacking Catastrophe, and I must say it's quite good. One of the better political documentaries i've seen by far. I'll put it up tomorrow. It's too bad its a vhs rip and is kind of shitty quality. Maybe i'll look for a better version.

I liked this quote at the beginning of the film:

"the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country."
-Hermann Goering during the Nazi war crime trials

On the alter of God I pledge undying hostility to any government restriction on the free minds of the people.
- Thomas Jefferson

[Machette]

rock:

[Machette]

ninty dont sleep on the job eek:

[ninty]

I had to write a midterm and do two presentations today. I get no respect I tells ya.

Uploading sucks because it uses all my bandwith and i can't do anything else on the computer. I have to find real life stuff to do. hake:

I'll put them up today or tomorrow. Go watch manufacturing consent again. happy:

[Machette]

rock:

[ninty]

i'm uploading hijacking catastrophie now. should be done later tonight. thats all i can do tonight because i don't have enough time to do the others. too bad uploading this shit takes so long.

[Machette]

Watched fog of war, it was a good doc....can't believe he went from President of Ford for seven weeks then to Secretary of Defense for seven years...and then go on to be the President of The World Bank for almost 2 decades....pretty unbelivable.

[ninty]

I haven't watched fog of war yet.

I did watch Outfoxed though, and that was a great doc. I'll upload that tomorrow.

[url=http&#58;//jefftrudel&#46;com/%5bHijacking%20Catastrophe%5d_PREMEDITATED_WAR_ON_ IRAQ~a%20must%20see(whole%20truth)~what%20bush%20d idnt%20want%20you%20to%20know&#46;mpg:06ed1]Hijacking Catastrophie[/url:06ed1]

[Machette]

Ninty look into this doc...p.s zoner dont delete this.. oOo:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071604/

EDIT: Why would I delete that? eek:

[Merlin122]

i'm hooked on chomsky. what links do you have to his docs?

[Machette]

i'm hooked on chomsky. what links do you have to his docs?

all deceased links...I have manufacturing consent..its like 700mb ed:

you can ask ninty to put it back up again though.

[strvs]

would you ninty? i missed it

<3

[ninty]

Yeah, i'll put it up tomorrow, but some other docs have to come down.

[url=http&#58;//jefftrudel&#46;com/foxed-vh-prod&#46;avi:11a99]Outfoxed[/url:11a99] - Great Doc.

I'll look into that doc but it will probably have to wait until next week. i'm out of town from friday until sunday.

[strvs]

thats cool. thanks man biggrin:

[ninty]

Manufacturing Consent is going up now. It will be done later tonight when I get home. I took down Hijacking catastrophie so hopefully everyone who wanted that got it.

[Machette]

Yeah, I have a folder dedicated to all these docs coming up..haven't missed one yet happy:


Just watched Outfoxed...fucking owns..they even had FAIR in there rock:

[ninty]

[url=http&#58;//jefftrudel&#46;com/3Manufacturing%20Consent%20-%20Noam%20Chomsky%20and%20the%20Media&#46;mpeg:45b37]Manufacturing Consent[/url:45b37]

[Merlin122]

already have it...infact im watchin it now

[Machette]

eek:

[Merlin122]

rock:

[strvs]

thanks ninty biggrin:

[Machette]

ninty eek:

[ninty]

http://westexpressway.typepad.com/weste ... y_says.mov (http://westexpressway.typepad.com/westexpressway/files/what_barry_says.mov)

yah, yah hold yer horses

[Machette]

eek:

[strvs]

http://westexpressway.typepad.com/westexpressway/files/what_barry_says.mov

yah, yah hold yer horses
some cool graphics in that vid ed:

[ninty]

won Best Animation - 2004 at the brooklyn international film festival

http://www.brooklynfilmfestival.org/fil ... =5&fid=353 (http://www.brooklynfilmfestival.org/films/detail.asp?cid=5&fid=353)

Sticks and Stones is here for those who haven't seen it:
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/sticksandstones.html
shitty quality. i'll try to find better version

[Machette]

Thats that leet episode of fifth estate on media...<3 ninty rock:

[ninty]

yeah i remember you said something about it, then i forgot, but now i'm downloading it. 700mb.

just got a couple other docs as well:

Private War

&

Operation Saddam - Americas Propaganda Battle

I'll upload tomorrow.

[Machette]

You better ninty rock:

[strvs]

just finished watching outfoxed .. very well done, amazing fox can get away with this kind of behaviour. just shows you how warped american media can be annoy:

[Machette]

Funny how were not getting alot of "wtf" responses from the Americans oOo: Only Canadians in this thread? eek:

[Maplegyver]

holy crap ann coulter is a fucking moron.

[ninty]

holy crap ann coulter is a fucking moron.

are you talking about the cbc doc? its not finished uploading yet. only 25% done.

[Machette]

eek:

[Maplegyver]

holy crap ann coulter is a fucking moron.

are you talking about the cbc doc? its not finished uploading yet. only 25% done.
yeah, sticks and stones, im watching it from thier site.

btw bill o rielly is a fucking moron too.

[Machette]

rock:

[ninty]

oh, i'm uploading sticks and stones divx and orwell rolls in his grave right now.

[ninty]

Funny how were not getting alot of "wtf" responses from the Americans oOo: Only Canadians in this thread? eek:

Yeah, I wonder why that is. It is strange.

[Ferich]

Probably aren't interested.

[Machette]

Probably aren't interested. ed: ed: ed:

[Bleuachdu]

WTF

happy? eek:

[Machette]

oOo:

[ninty]

WTF

happy? eek:

Not really.

I think we're just curious as to why no one seems to care about this...especially Americans. I mean, since it interests me and other Canadians, why wouldn't it interest Americans? For the most part its just me and mach and strvs, so i guess were the only really interested ones. Actually I think merlin posted in here as well, so he gets the title of FIRST AMERICAN TO POST IN THIS TOPIC, but i'll have to check on that.

It would probably interest Americans more, I would think, but maybe that assumption is wrong. I don't know.

Edit:
Sgt. Paine is the first non canadian to post in this thread! Congrats to him! I think he's american too, so we get two birds with one stone... American and non canadian! oOo:

So yeah...i should be an investigative reporter.

[Ferich]

I've read threads I've been interested in and didn't post. It all depends on what that person's personality is, if they feel like reading, etc if they post or not...not what country they're from.

What type of answer are you looking for Ninty? We're being brainwashed or something? Come on, be real.

[Merlin122]

WTF

happy? eek:

Not really.

I think we're just curious as to why no one seems to care about this...especially Americans. I mean, since it interests me and other Canadians, why wouldn't it interest Americans? For the most part its just me and mach and strvs, so i guess were the only really interested ones. Actually I think merlin posted in here as well, so he gets the title of FIRST AMERICAN TO POST IN THIS TOPIC, but i'll have to check on that.

It would probably interest Americans more, I would think, but maybe that assumption is wrong. I don't know.

Edit:
Sgt. Paine is the first non canadian to post in this thread! Congrats to him! I think he's american too, so we get two birds with one stone... American and non canadian! oOo:

So yeah...i should be an investigative reporter.

your average man on the street doesn't care very much about america's external policies. Most don't even watch the news. Most of the kids in my highschool either don't care or they follow the beliefs imposed on them by their parents that america is always doing the right thing.

[Ferich]

Or they accept the fact that in their position they can't do anything about their Governments policies besides complain and other limited options that end up all the same; the policies still in place, or changed with more things to complain,etc about now.

[Merlin122]

Or they accept the fact that in their position they can't do anything about their Governments policies besides complain and other limited options that end up all the same; the policies still in place, or changed with more things to complain,etc about now.


but they can be changed. If people cooperate like they did in the 1960's they could bend the government to change these policies. But the times have changed and most people will think you're some crazy liberal who wants to destroy american values.

[ninty]

I agree.

All i'm saying is I scratch my head when the masturbation threads get 100 posts in 2 hours, while posts that are somewhat more important, or should be precieved as more important aren't very popular. I guess if I wanted responses on these types of issues i should visit some kind of political board or something instead of a gaming site populated by mostly kids under the age of 17.

[Merlin122]

mind you, i'm only 16

[ninty]

I know. I'm not saying 16 or 15 or 13 year olds can't be interested, or be knowledgable in the subject. However, the majority of those of that are are not in this topic, nor are they anywhere in the history or political threads.

The majority of people are here to goof off in offtopic, no matter what the age.

[Merlin122]

I stay up at night thinking about what I could do to rally my fellow americans and topple the neo conservative policies that plague our nation today. But looking at places like my school and at my comrades in youth, it is seemingly impossible to start any kind of mass protest, or even a comparitvely simple petition. Unless someone thinks of something revolutionary then we're all screwed.

[Maplegyver]

start putting up posters of propaganda at you school. i did that once at my school, just when we were voting for headboy. our posters called for the studenets to vote for cabbage. we got about 120 votes
happy: mind you we were suspended for a week.

[Ferich]

Every site has at least a few dummies,...some more than others. Americans aren't responsible for all of the bullshit on this site though, which I think you know anyways. Teenagers aren't either.

You can't expect everyone, especially the pool of unintelligent morons on the internet, to be interested in everything you think they should be or want them to be. And that fact applies in real life too.

[Bleuachdu]

You can't expect everyone, especially the pool of unintelligent morons on the internet, to be interested in everything you think they should be or want them to be. And that fact applies in real life too.

Good point. Not to mention the fact that I've been following this thread since it started and downloaded 3 or 4 of the videos. It doesn't mean I'm not interested or don't have an opinion. I just don't post very much, I've always been that way.

I'll give you my thoughts as to why there have been very few posts in this thread:

Primarily, not many people frequent the Politics & History forum. Its still fairly new and I think it used to be hidden to only registered users.

Next, this thread is a powder keg. It's a thread filled with videos that have many negative connotations about America... started and kept alive by Canadians. Whether or not the videos have merit is not the question; rather their content and who's posting them. Regardless of affiliation (liberal conservative... whatever) when a foreigner somehow portrays your country negatively, even if indirectly, that person will likely take offense on some level. There have been several shining examples of this. In the OTBS forum, we've had far to many knee-jerking, flame-throwing, poop-slinging Canada vs. America threads. Each "side" has their own hypercritical disparaging nitpicker; my guess is that no one wants to turn this into another pointless battle.

Finally, those videos are friggin huge if you didn't notice. Some take upwards of an hour to download and another hour or so to watch. If I had more time I may spend it here keeping up on this stuff, but my life and responsibilities demand much more time than I'd like.

[Machette]

The videos take me only 20 minutes to download, guess its my connection. But Ferich nailed it right on the dot, most people on this fourm to say the least don't have a good spike of intelligence to understand some of the subjects in these videos, and Bleuachdu underlined another good on about America vs. Canada falme wars which to me are pretty useless since it cannot underline anything significant...maybe world power and military mite.. But on to some more videos ninty rock:

[ninty]

I'll be the first one to admit that the videos i have put up are leftist, liberal or whatever else you want to call them. I'm definetly on the left side of the spectrum, and these videos interest me. If there are videos of other political opinion that anyone wishes to see let me know and i'll take a look for them. I don't have a problem with that.

When I started the thread, I PM both Coleman and Noctis, because I knew both of them are Conservatives. I invited them to take a look at the videos if they wanted and then I wanted their opinion. Both said that they would look into the videos, but I haven't heard back from them since a couple weeks ago. I think there are many people here able to engage in a civil conversation on these topics.

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[url=http&#58;//jefftrudel&#46;com/050126%20-%20cbc%20-%20the%20fifth%20estate%20-%20sticks%20and%20stones&#46;avi:c8638]The Fifth Estate - Sticks and Stones 690MB[/url:c8638]
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/sticksandstones.html

[url=http&#58;//jefftrudel&#46;com/Orwell%20Rolls%20in%20his%20Grave&#46;avi:c8638]Orwell Rolls In His Grave 682MB[/url:c8638]
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0410407/

[Machette]

ninty ownage

[ninty]

http://academicbias.com/bw101.html

Got some more stuff. upload tomorrow.

[Machette]

rock:

[imported_Fluffy_Bunny]

I'll be the first one to admit that the videos i have put up are leftist, liberal or whatever else you want to call them. I'm definetly on the left side of the spectrum, and these videos interest me. If there are videos of other political opinion that anyone wishes to see let me know and i'll take a look for them. I don't have a problem with that.

When I started the thread, I PM both Coleman and Noctis, because I knew both of them are Conservatives. I invited them to take a look at the videos if they wanted and then I wanted their opinion. Both said that they would look into the videos, but I haven't heard back from them since a couple weeks ago. I think there are many people here able to engage in a civil conversation on these topics.

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[url=http&#58;//jefftrudel&#46;com/050126%20-%20cbc%20-%20the%20fifth%20estate%20-%20sticks%20and%20stones&#46;avi:0f7f4]The Fifth Estate - Sticks and Stones 690MB[/url:0f7f4]
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/sticksandstones.html

[url=http&#58;//jefftrudel&#46;com/Orwell%20Rolls%20in%20his%20Grave&#46;avi:0f7f4]Orwell Rolls In His Grave 682MB[/url:0f7f4]
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0410407/

This is why they were all showed on Channel 4 in England, the channel adopts the slogan of 'better red than dead'. imho. biggrin: I doubt many republicans will be impressed.

[Bleuachdu]

what are the other nightmare series docs about? I finally watched part 3 yesterday, very interesting to say the least.

[Mr.Buttocks]

Probably aren't interested.

I haven't commented because I'm going through a period of extreme idleness. The kind of content that ninty's posted usually floats my boat, but I have to admit that I haven't downloaded/watched any of it yet. eek:

[ninty]

what are the other nightmare series docs about? I finally watched part 3 yesterday, very interesting to say the least.

Basically it starts out from the 50's and how the islamic terrorists came to be. It also talks about the cold war and how that played a role in the conservative view basically from the 50's up to 2000 where we see islamic fundamentalists and new conservatives. i'll upload the others if you want them, but it will have to wait a day or two.

http://jefftrudel.com/Afghan%20Massacre ... %20VCD.avi (http://jefftrudel.com/Afghan%20Massacre%20-%20the%20Convoy%20of%20Death%20VCD.avi)
http://jefftrudel.com/Noam%20Chomsky%20 ... 20Rose.avi (http://jefftrudel.com/Noam%20Chomsky%20on%20Charlie%20Rose.avi)
http://jefftrudel.com/Noam_Chomsky.Dist ... lity_(2003 (http://jefftrudel.com/Noam_Chomsky.Distorted_Morality_(2003)).avi

lots of noam chomsky for you mach

[Machette]

I wanna fuck you cool:

[ninty]

ok but do it beforse i sober up

[Machette]

oOo:

[ninty]

oOo:

i think i'm an alcoholic... no i'm not. rock:

[Machette]

get some vids up

[ninty]

2/\/\0Rr0VV hake:

BEING OSAMA
Monday February 28 at 9pm on CBC-TV
repeating Wednesday March 2 at 10pm ET/PT on CBC Newsworld

http://www.cbc.ca/passionateeye/beingosama.html
http://www.diversus.com/prod/being_osama.html

[Machette]

Shit missed it, guess monday...

also you look into the Shake hands with the devil doc.. eek:

[ninty]

yeah i missed it too. its on wednesday again.

and yeah i'l look into the doc but this week is really busy for me so i might not get to it right away. i have a business plan due on friday and i ahevn't started yet and this thing requires tons of research. so bare with me mach. angel:

[Bleuachdu]

ooooh what kind of business plan? that's right up mein alley.

[ninty]

happy:

You want to write it for me Bleu?

I'm taking Bachelor of Applied Business and Entrepreneurship with a Major in Small Business and this summer we have to start up our own business. I've taken a whole class where 100% of your mark is your business plan. That sucked. Had to ahve something like 300 hours of research to back everything up. Needed statistics of all kinds and financial records and everything. It was a real business plan. I did the class on a landscaping company. What i'm doing here is really a condensed version of that plan except the business i'm starting is a house painting company that also has ties with local businesses. So i'll be painting houses and i'll get some contract work from some companies as well. Basically I ahve to write up a short business plan with all my markets and everything, as well as include some goals and things, and marketing and legal aspects etc. I think the harder part will be the financials. I need detailed financials on all my equipment and everything. And I still haven't really started yet.

Due on Friday at 2pm. dance:

[Machette]

Word ****a

[ninty]

[url=http&#58;//jefftrudel&#46;com/Operation_Saddam_-_Americas_Propaganda_Battle&#46;wmv:828d0]Operation Saddam 255mb[/url:828d0]
[url=http&#58;//jefftrudel&#46;com/The_Gaza_Strip-Documentary&#46;avi:828d0]The Gaza Strip 519mb[/url:828d0]
[url=http&#58;//jefftrudel&#46;com/The_Great_Conspiracy&#46;avi:828d0]The Great Conspiracy 500mb[/url:828d0]
[url=http&#58;//jefftrudel&#46;com/This_World_-_Private_War&#46;avi:828d0]Private War 245mb[/url:828d0]

[Machette]

ninty ownage

rather slow download....100kbs, usually get 600kbs from you eek:

[ninty]

hmm...dunno man. maybe dreamhost server is crapping out.

[Machette]

dreamhost oOo:

[ninty]

cost $10 for the year. if you think i'd buy webspace for $120 just to upload movies mach, you got another thing coming...i mean i like you and all, but $120 can buy me things like beer and hookers.

[Machette]

Not huge on webspace, never heard of dreamhost thats why it made me laugh...but its cool, just a minor trouble of slow downloading that I can live with it... rock:

[ninty]

eek:


This doc looks amazing:
http://gnn.tv/videos/20/BattleGround_21 ... ire_s_Edge (http://gnn.tv/videos/20/BattleGround_21_Days_on_the_Empire_s_Edge)

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9-11 on Trial


Victor Thorn & Lisa Guliani

In March, 2005, WING TV will present “9-11 on Trial,” which will examine the government’s explanation of events following the terror attacks of September 11, 2001. Specifically, the focal point of these proceedings will be: did burning jet fuel cause the collapse of each World Trade Center tower? A subsequent trial in mid-to-late 2005 will take into consideration whether Flight 77 – a Boeing 757 – struck the Pentagon.

To prosecute this case, we are going to rely solely on verifiable scientific data of the highest order (as opposed to the obvious pitfalls associated with “theory”). In this sense, our focus will be exclusively directed at the CAUSE of the towers’ collapse, and not any peripheral SYMPTOMS.

We are engaging in this project for two primary reasons: (a) to counteract a “black hole” of sorts that has engulfed previous and/or current 9-11 lawsuits, all of which seem to be squashed, in limbo, or severely compromised; and (b) to show that this case can be proven in a court of law relying solely on verifiable scientific facts, physics, and the laws of nature.

At this point we have amassed mountains of data, but if anyone would like to submit material which fits the above-mentioned criteria, their contributions are most certainly welcome.

“9-11 on Trial” promises to be an historic event, for we will prove beyond a shadow of a doubt – in a courtroom setting for all the world to see – that the government’s explanation of events were nothing more than bold-faced lies. More details to follow by month’s end.




http://www.rbnlive.com/


http://69.28.73.17/realmedia/banner1a.html

[Bleuachdu]

Financials, forecasting, cost-accounting etc... all suck. Thats easily the most tedious part of a business plan. Sounds like you're writing an executive summary or something similar? Business planning = l337. Best of luck.

[ninty]

Executive summary will be part of it yeah. I'm probably gonna be working on this thing all night.

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Nice little vid:
http://velvetrevolution.us/Content/Elec ... 20-256.wmv (http://velvetrevolution.us/Content/ElectoralReform/Video/Illegit_Election_2004-20-256.wmv)

[Machette]

eek:

[ninty]

plzdie:

[Machette]

Just saw The Killing Fields good movie..

[ninty]

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[Machette]

get some more up fool rock: stupid:

[ninty]

ban:

tomorrow foo

ed:

tell me which ones you want uploaded tomorrow the most. pick 2 or 3.

[Machette]

what ones you got? I forgot...


if you have the Romeo Dallire one upload that one for sure..

but put the list out eek:

[ninty]

dork

which of these haven't i put up?

911 The Great Illusion (watched half of it, found it to be quite shitty)
Afghan Massacre (haven't watched it)
Control Room (good look into al jazeera)
Operation Saddam - Americas Propaganda Battle (haven't watched it)
This World - PrivateWar (haven't watched it)
The Gaza Strip Documentary (haven't watched it, but I think its pro Palestinian because it came with a bunch of pictures of dead Palestinians and Israeli Terrorists videos)
The Great Conspiracy (haven't watched it)
The Oil Factor (haven't watched it)

[Machette]

there all up oOo:

[ninty]

911 The Great Illusion
20041102.Last.Chance.v08.DVD.911.Events.Split.Scre en.Plus.9.Docs
103866.mov <---some israilie thing
Afghan Massacre
[Documentary].Alex.Jones-Matrix.of.Evil-FULL.2.VCDs.to.1.DivX-file.[ReVIsed].infowars.com.plz.share.avi
Alex_Jones-Dark_Secrets_Inside_Bohemian_Grove.wmv
(Alex jones is kind of crazy. Hes way out there. I don't think i've put those up but the quality are pretty shitty. you can see some of his stuff at infowars.com)
050126 - cbc - the fifth estate - sticks and stones.avi
Control Room
Crazy.Rulers.of.The.World.-.The.Men.Who.Stare.At.Goats.1.of.3.VCD.mpg
C-Span 1 hour Jon Stewart Interview [LQ].avi
Fog Of War
Hijacking Catastrophie
Hillyer-100k.mov <--some short clip with some guy talking about something
Kubiak-100k-1.mov <--same as above
what_barry_says.mov
3Manufacturing Consent - Noam Chomsky and the Media.mpeg
Noam Chomsky on Charlie Rose.avi
Noam_Chomsky.Distorted_Morality_(2003).avi
Operation Saddam
Orwell Rolls In His Grave
Outfoxed
Private War
The Corporation
The Gaza Strip Documentary
The Great Conspiracy
The Oil Factor
The Power of Nightmares 1-3
Uncovered - The Truth About The Iraq War

That's all the movies I have on my computer. Over 13gigs.

If you have all those then thats it. I'll be on the lookout for others. I think you mentioned a couple in this thread. Vietnam one and the dallaire one i'll look at getting. if you want, put together a list of what else you want and i'll see what i can do.

[Machette]

911 The Great Illusion
20041102.Last.Chance.v08.DVD.911.Events.Split.Scre en.Plus.9.Docs
103866.mov <---some israilie thing
[Documentary].Alex.Jones-Matrix.of.Evil-FULL.2.VCDs.to.1.DivX-file.[ReVIsed].infowars.com.plz.share.avi
Hillyer-100k.mov <--some short clip with some guy talking about something
Kubiak-100k-1.mov <--same as above


havent put those up

[ninty]

http://jefftrudel.com/103866.mov
http://jefftrudel.com/911%20The%20Great ... Part.1.wmv (http://jefftrudel.com/911%20The%20Great%20Illusion/911-The.Great.Illusion-Part.1.wmv)
http://jefftrudel.com/911%20The%20Great ... Part.2.wmv (http://jefftrudel.com/911%20The%20Great%20Illusion/911-The.Great.Illusion-Part.2.wmv)
http://jefftrudel.com/Hillyer-100k.mov
http://jefftrudel.com/Kubiak-100k-1.mov

[Machette]

ed: rock:

[ninty]

911 The Great Illusion
[Documentary].Alex.Jones-Matrix.of.Evil-FULL.2.VCDs.to.1.DivX-file.[ReVIsed].infowars.com.plz.share.avi

I'll put those up tomorrow.

20041102.Last.Chance.v08.DVD.911.Events.Split.Scre en.Plus.9.Docs

is supposed to be burned to dvd, so its not a media file, and i don't even think it downlaoded all the way. also, i ahve no idea what it is.

I watched the Oil Factor just now and it was excellent.

[ninty]

http://jefftrudel.com/Alex%20Jones/Alex ... _Grove.wmv (http://jefftrudel.com/Alex%20Jones/Alex_Jones-Dark_Secrets_Inside_Bohemian_Grove.wmv)
http://jefftrudel.com/Alex%20Jones/%5bD ... .share.avi (http://jefftrudel.com/Alex%20Jones/%5bDocumentary%5d.Alex.Jones-Matrix.of.Evil-FULL.2.VCDs.to.1.DivX-file.%5bReVIsed%5d.infowars.com.plz.share.avi)

and thats it buddy. thats all i have.

if i get more i'll put them up, but the ones i want are difficult to get ahold of. all the ones i ahve given you are pretty readily avaliable.

[Machette]

danke biggrin:

[ninty]

Happen to catch The Take tonight?

http://www.cbc.ca/passionateeye/thetake.html

Great doc. Very moving. It was pro-workers, and they did a great job of relating to the workers. Made you really want to cheer for them. I guess thats bad because it wasn't objective, but it might be kind of hard to be objective when companies desert their workers and leave them to starve, then when the workers try to run the factories themselves to make money and then the companies come looking for their factories back.

[Machette]

My collection is growing, thats all you need to know ninty. biggrin:

[ninty]

And your not sharing with me? hake: loney:

[Machette]

And your not sharing with me? hake: loney:I would if I had my own webspace.... loney:

[ninty]

You can upload it to mine if your willing to do that.

What do you have?

[Machette]

Some shit called The Yes Men, havent watched it.....I'm almost done downloading a "better" version of The Corporation....its 2 gigs so it better be good, and a shitload of Chomsky vids and more to come. eek:

[ninty]

I bought the corporation. Just waiting for it to ship:
http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/B ... 15-7701665 (http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0007LEMQA/qid=1112393587/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_3_1/702-8185815-7701665)

I also bought this book:
http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/0 ... 6C3DWFMZHA (http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/0771042175/ref=cs_nav_top_wl/ref=cm_mp_wli_/702-8185815-7701665?coliid=I3I452880GXSFK&colid=2WK6C3DWFMZHA)

I'm downloading the yes men now as well. I think its a satire, not a real doc.

If you get other ones, let me know.

I'll put up some others when I get tham and i'll pm you.

[Machette]

biggrin:

[ninty]

http://www.cbc.ca/passionateeye/powerof ... index.html (http://www.cbc.ca/passionateeye/powerofnightmares/index.html)

CBC picked up Power of Nightmares. Playing tonight.

And I forgot about uploading that stuff. I'll try to do that sometime.

[Machette]

eek: