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ninty
02-05-2005, 03:36 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&c ... &printer=1 (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1530&u=/afp/20050204/wl_asia_afp/nkoreamilitaryskoreaus_050204073102&printer=1)

Merlin122
02-05-2005, 03:48 PM
this can't be true. this is very bad... very very bad

Ferich
02-05-2005, 03:58 PM
I find that there's a fine line between being ready for a fight and provoking a fight.

Machette
02-05-2005, 04:46 PM
I find that there's a fine line between being ready for a fight and provoking a fight.

Himmler
02-05-2005, 06:56 PM
thats incrediblely gay

Jin-Roh
02-05-2005, 08:47 PM
North Korea
Military manpower - availability: males age 15-49: 6,181,038 (2004 est.)
Military manpower - fit for military service: males age 15-49: 3,694,855 (2004 est.)


South Korea
Military manpower - availability: males age 15-49: 14,233,895 (2004 est.)
Military manpower - fit for military service: males age 15-49: 8,966,241 (2004 est.)


United States of America
Military manpower - availability: males age 15-49: 73,597,731 (2004 est.)
Military manpower - fit for military service: NA (2004 est.) (I am guessing around 37,900,GF1)

"Democrats": 87,831,626 (46,866,741)
"Commies": 6,181,038 (3,694,855)

... and in the worst case scenario, China joins N. Korea: 385,705,726 (211,838,207)

Yeah, I think we got a chance. cool:

Without China- 14:1
With China- 2.5926^12:1
I think that's right. oOo:


(Yes, I know that manpower is not the only factor that should be considered.)

imported_Grim_Reaper
02-05-2005, 09:03 PM
north korea would unleash their nuclear weapons, but as merlin said, this is very very bad

Jin-Roh
02-05-2005, 09:10 PM
[quote="Grim_Reaper":039ba]north korea would unleash their nuclear weapons, but as merlin said, this is very very bad[/quote:039ba]


... and where would they send them? rolleyes:

Machette
02-05-2005, 09:15 PM
In North Korea...in 1999, 5.05% of the total population of 21,386,000 (or one for every 19 people) was a member of the armed forces...making them have the highest percentage of military personnel in the world.

BlackJackal
02-05-2005, 11:03 PM
this blows. think about all the re-called troops. annoy:
but i support our military 100% of the way, i, in the back of my mind, knew that eventually korea would become a major theatre of ops.

Tripper
02-06-2005, 12:21 AM
I find that there's a fine line between being ready for a fight and provoking a fight.

Totally agree.

rdeyes
02-06-2005, 03:28 AM
[quote="Jin-Roh":c0ad7][quote="Grim_Reaper":c0ad7]north korea would unleash their nuclear weapons, but as merlin said, this is very very bad[/quote:c0ad7]


... and where would they send them? rolleyes:[/quote:c0ad7]

closest part of america to NK is ..... ALASKA

Trunks
02-06-2005, 11:13 AM
This isnt good. North korea shouldnt be underestimated... Does anyone know how powerful their airforce and navy is supposed to be? I know their army is supposed to be well armed and trained, but what of the other two branches... Because in case of a war, if we impose a naval blockade, and then achieve air superiority, then its all over.

Arkan
02-06-2005, 01:02 PM
I told you fuckers!! The next world threat is N.Korea and China.

rdeyes
02-06-2005, 02:52 PM
i dont see why the people in Norh Korea dont revolt, what do they have to lose ? they are all starving and Kim Il Jung is a freak physco ruthless dictator.

ninty
02-06-2005, 03:52 PM
because the army is loyal to the government. they get all the food and money and stuff. the people have nothing. rations were just cut in nkorea from 300 grams per day per person to 250 grams. 250 grams is nothing. certainly not enough to live on.

http://english.yna.co.kr/Engnews/200502 ... 441E8.html (http://english.yna.co.kr/Engnews/20050203/301100000020050203102441E8.html)

Jin-Roh
02-06-2005, 04:06 PM
i dont see why the people in Norh Korea dont revolt, what do they have to lose ? they are all starving and Kim Il Jung is a freak physco ruthless dictator.

One possible reason is because they are used to it, and it is hard to change to anything different.

strvs
02-06-2005, 04:31 PM
only adding fuel to the fire.

BlackJackal
02-06-2005, 05:02 PM
only adding fuel to the fire.

The Milkman
02-06-2005, 09:49 PM
i dont see why the people in Norh Korea dont revolt, what do they have to lose ? they are all starving and Kim Il Jung is a freak physco ruthless dictator.

If you say something anti-governmental you are thrown in political prision...so yeah, it would be hard.

rdeyes
02-06-2005, 10:11 PM
i really dont think NK wants to start a war with the US .

Jin-Roh
02-06-2005, 10:20 PM
i really dont think NK wants to start a war with the US .

they'd probably love to, but they know it wouldn't be worth it. oOo:

rdeyes
02-06-2005, 10:32 PM
[quote=rdeyes]i really dont think NK wants to start a war with the US .

they'd probably love to, but they know it wouldn't be worth it. oOo:[/quote:1f89c]

what valuable natural resource does NK have ?

Madmartagen
02-06-2005, 11:09 PM
http://www.consumptionjunction.com/i/news/CJ020705b.gif

scootersss

elstatec
02-07-2005, 01:52 AM
does the us even have 690,000 troops to put over there??!?

Pyro
02-07-2005, 10:10 AM
It just seems like they're asking for a War...last thing Id ask for...but hey if it wets the conservatives whistles, we can't do much about it for 4 years.

Ferich
02-07-2005, 01:01 PM
It just seems like they're asking for a War...last thing Id ask for...but hey if it wets the conservatives whistles, we can't do much about it for 4 years.

I don't see what you mean? All the conservatives didn't get together one day and decide to provoke a war with North Korea.

To me it seems like a cause and effect. Who didn't see this war coming? Especially with some of the crap Kim Jong has been pulling on his own people.

Quze
02-07-2005, 01:43 PM
i dont see why the people in Norh Korea dont revolt, what do they have to lose ? they are all starving and Kim Il Jung is a freak physco ruthless dictator.

Easier said then done, really.

Jin-Roh
02-07-2005, 01:47 PM
does the us even have 690,000 troops to put over there??!?

CIA's World Factbook says so. oOo:

elstatec
02-07-2005, 01:48 PM
well as long as it doesnt involve any uk troops.

Jin-Roh
02-07-2005, 01:54 PM
well as long as it doesnt involve any uk troops.

a couple of my teachers say that the uk has become a puppet to the united states, in a way.. eek:

i doubt it is that way though.

Duke_of_Ray
02-07-2005, 03:44 PM
A fight with N.Korea would suck. annoy:

Jin-Roh
02-07-2005, 04:00 PM
[quote="Duke_of_Ray":7fa77]A fight with N.Korea would suck. annoy:[/quote:7fa77]

We fought them before. It wouldn't be that bad, unless we really do underestimate them.

elstatec
02-07-2005, 06:21 PM
[quote=elstatec]well as long as it doesnt involve any uk troops.

a couple of my teachers say that the uk has become a puppet to the united states, in a way.. eek:

i doubt it is that way though.[/quote:95a68]


tony blair is the puppet, not the UK, but hopefully he wisens up to the 99.9% of the population here thats against all this shit

rdeyes
02-07-2005, 09:31 PM
NK goverment wants the movie Team America banned in prague. happy:

Pyro
02-07-2005, 10:48 PM
It just seems like they're asking for a War...last thing Id ask for...but hey if it wets the conservatives whistles, we can't do much about it for 4 years.

I don't see what you mean? All the conservatives didn't get together one day and decide to provoke a war with North Korea.

To me it seems like a cause and effect. Who didn't see this war coming? Especially with some of the crap Kim Jong has been pulling on his own people.

In your opinion...Would you believe Iraq should take priority over North Korea, as it obviouslly has.

tomxtr
02-08-2005, 12:44 PM
In your opinion...Would you believe Iraq should take priority over North Korea, as it obviouslly has.

Your question implies that you believe otherwise. What do you propose, bombing North Korea instead of Iraq.

I might be with you in that North Korea is a bigger threat. However, something about this story does not ring true with me.

The US certainly does not have enough active duty troops to send over there. That number may mean total US and S. Korean troops, in which case that would mean a few thousand more Americans.

I'm against it though. All the S. Koreans do is complain about Americans in South Korea. I say the hell with them and bring our guys home. We've held the North Koreans at bay long enough. And, like 99 said, their malnurished asses won't be in any mood to fight.

Jin-Roh
02-08-2005, 12:56 PM
The US certainly does not have enough active duty troops to send over there. That number may mean total US and S. Korean troops, in which case that would mean a few thousand more Americans.

We have over a million, last time I checked. rolleyes:

Ferich
02-08-2005, 01:03 PM
It just seems like they're asking for a War...last thing Id ask for...but hey if it wets the conservatives whistles, we can't do much about it for 4 years.

I don't see what you mean? All the conservatives didn't get together one day and decide to provoke a war with North Korea.

To me it seems like a cause and effect. Who didn't see this war coming? Especially with some of the crap Kim Jong has been pulling on his own people.

In your opinion...Would you believe Iraq should take priority over North Korea, as it obviouslly has.

Personally I think the Iraq war started already so whatever I say won't change that fact and how much of a priority it is. What exactly do you mean priority anyways? They actually care when they're getting shot at? Or need a certain number for an occupation force? They invaded already so I don't see a point in debating about the priority of needing to start a war.

I definately think two conflicts going on at one time would be idiotic and a blunder. One almost fizzled out but still a hotzone - the other could provoke china,nuclear holocaust,etc.

We'll see what happens.

Hell, there's even talk about the US invading Iran.

Pyro
02-08-2005, 01:22 PM
Well I agree that it would be stupid to fight two wars at once.

tomxtr
02-08-2005, 01:39 PM
[quote=tomxtr]
The US certainly does not have enough active duty troops to send over there. That number may mean total US and S. Korean troops, in which case that would mean a few thousand more Americans.

We have over a million, last time I checked. rolleyes:[/quote:01b4c]

And sending damn near 70% (according to your number) to the far east wouldn't tax the military. rolleyes:

Arch
02-08-2005, 02:52 PM
annoy: This is fucking unbelievable...just bring 'em home.

Bleuachdu
02-08-2005, 11:23 PM
Maybe I'm news retarded, but I can't find anything more about this other than what 90 posted.

ninty
02-08-2005, 11:25 PM
http://www.keralanext.com/news/indexread.asp?id=105734

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?F=636491&C=navwar

Its the same report over and over, but thats probably all you'll get. Mainstream media probably won't touch it, and all the info given is listed in the article, so I doubt you'll get much more than that.

Jin-Roh
02-08-2005, 11:52 PM
Goooood:

http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0307/feature1/
http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm ... extra.html (http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0307/feature1/online_extra.html)

HeadUp
02-09-2005, 01:20 AM
EDIT: i really dont know about the legitimacy of this "white paper," there is nothing yet so far from the us about agreeing to this, and i honestly cant see us diverting that much military power from iraq......at least i hope the us govt is not that stupid

BlackJackal
02-09-2005, 03:19 PM
why havent i heard anything about sending major troops to korea on the news?

Machette
02-09-2005, 03:33 PM
Because different media works in different ways.

Short Hand
02-09-2005, 04:26 PM
conscription do bop do bop do bop consriiippption do do do bop dada. sing along fellas.

Ferich
02-12-2005, 03:56 PM
http://groundforce1.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1006030

gtboys34
02-14-2005, 07:50 PM
[quote="Jin-Roh":747a5]North Korea
Military manpower - availability: males age 15-49: 6,181,038 (2004 est.)
Military manpower - fit for military service: males age 15-49: 3,694,855 (2004 est.)


South Korea
Military manpower - availability: males age 15-49: 14,233,895 (2004 est.)
Military manpower - fit for military service: males age 15-49: 8,966,241 (2004 est.)


United States of America
Military manpower - availability: males age 15-49: 73,597,731 (2004 est.)
Military manpower - fit for military service: NA (2004 est.) (I am guessing around 37,900,GF1)

"Democrats": 87,831,626 (46,866,741)
"Commies": 6,181,038 (3,694,855)

... and in the worst case scenario, China joins N. Korea: 385,705,726 (211,838,207)

Yeah, I think we got a chance. cool:

Without China- 14:1
With China- 2.5926^12:1
I think that's right. oOo:


(Yes, I know that manpower is not the only factor that should be considered.)[/quote:747a5] ever read first 5 books of the holy bible? I challenge you to read them. Israel was outnumbered and prevailed against all that opposed. With GOD on our side, we can't lose. If it ever came down to something like that

strvs
02-14-2005, 08:01 PM
ever read first 5 books of the holy bible? I challenge you to read them. Israel was outnumbered and prevailed against all that opposed. With GOD on our side, we can't lose. If it ever came down to something like that
Oh please. rolleyes:

Jin-Roh
02-14-2005, 10:12 PM
ever read first 5 books of the holy bible? I challenge you to read them. Israel was outnumbered and prevailed against all that opposed. With GOD on our side, we can't lose. If it ever came down to something like that
Oh please. rolleyes:

Yeah! ... "Oh please."

It's not "god" that's on our side, which helps us against all odds (Whats?). It's the fighting spirit. Yargh! dance: the_finger: hellfire: